The .30-30 cartridge is now more appropriately appreciated for close range hunting of medium game while the lever action rifles that house the .30-30 are still considered by many hunters, to be the ultimate in portability. One of the hits of 2018 is the new Ruger PC9 Carbine in 9x19mm. Handgun cartridge performance in carbines, compared to rifle cartridges, is anything but amazing, except to say they are amazingly weak. Muzzle energy is 977 ft. lbs. The current Ruger PC9 and similar ultra-short carbines are a more accurate platform than a pistol. Carbine length black powder rifles were consider low performance in terms of velocity and less accurate, due to the shorter sighting plane. It is a handy, fun gun that is good for home defense, or plinking. According to the Speer Reloading Manual No. It is shorter and lighter than a full length rifle, about the length of a curved sword or saber, that can be carried in a scabbard on horseback. As to the round’s ballistic performance… Fired from the Blackhawk’s 7.5-inch barrel, the .30 Carbine round loses several hundred feet per second of muzzle velocity (and hence quite a bit of energy) compared to when it’s fired from the Carbine — as one might expect when one more-than-halves the barrel length. of energy.
Ballistics by the Inch shows there often is little velocity gain. I would guess that any M1 Carbine capable of 2-3" groups at 100 yds could easily be held high at 450, and do as well. Now you know why 10mm carbines make little sense, compared to the 9mm variety. For hunting medium game, Winchester ballistics credit their .357 Magnum 158 grain JHP and JSP bullets with a muzzle velocity of 1830 fps from a 20 inch carbine barrel. Given normal accuracy of 3" @ 100, we're talking a possible group roughly 14-16" @ 450 yds (3"/100 x 4.5).
A 240 grain Federal Hydra-Shok load from a .44 Remington Magnum (.429 inch bullet diameter) carbine nets 1619 fps from a 16 inch barrel, putting the 10mm to shame. From a carbine length rifle barrel .30 Carbine factory loads drive 110 grain RN bullets at a muzzle velocity of 1,990 fps. The Speer 110 grain Varminter JHP bullet has a BC of .136, and a SD of .166 (not impressive, but better than the 55 grain .224 inch bullet). It will hit about 8" high at 100 yards, and 3" shy of 12 FEET LOW @450 yards.
in a 7 pound carbine. 9mm Luger (9x19mm) pistol cartridge bullets also have very poor ballistic coefficients. Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by woof, Aug 7, 2011. You do understand that, right? The reloader has the choice of 90-110 grain soft point, hollow point, and full metal jacket style bullets. All rights reserved. of energy. Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by ArfinGreebly, Mar 31, 2011. The remaining energy of these loads is 715 ft. lbs. Since the .30 Carbine headspaces on the case mouth, like an autoloading pistol cartridge, it must be taper crimped; do not roll crimp.
The 9mm, 10mm and even the .357 Magnum is under powered compared to the .35 Remington rifle cartridge. It should be, as it uses less propellant and brass. Texan by birth, in Colorado cause I hate humidity, http://www.remington.com/pages/news-and-resources/ballistics.aspx, http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmtraj-5.1.cgi. We'd like to personally and specifically thank Pat Childs at Fin & Feather in Iowa City, as he not only helped get most of our ammunition and other supplies, he was the brilliant gunsmith who worked with us to make this insane project much more practical. It is a self-defense and small predator cartridge when expanding bullets are used and a great plinker with FMJ bullets. Without his help all of this would have been much more difficult and perhaps impossible. at 100 yards.
Sighted-in three inches high at 100 yards, it is dead on at 200 yards, still hitting with 1315 ft. lbs. This is still extremely slow for a carbine, for a .22 Winchester Magnum rimfire carbine with a 16 inch barrel shooting 45 grain Hornady FlexTip ammo hits 1702 fps. As for the 10mm auto (.400 inch bullet diameter), velocities with Federal 180 grain Hydra-Shok ammo from a five inch barrel are 1069 fps and 1220 fps from a 16 inch barrel.
10mm means more noise, less capacity, more recoil and a higher cost per shot. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. 13 13.0 grains of W296 powder gives their 110 grain bullet a MV of 1796 fps, and 15.0 grains of W296 drives a 110 grain bullet at a MV of 1981 fps.
Developed by wildcatter Ken Waters for lever action rifles, the 7-30 Waters is based on the 30-30 Winchester necked down to 7mm, designed as an attempt to produce superior external ballistics to the parent cartridge. The Hornady LEVER Revolution round for the latter drives a 200 grain bullet out of the muzzle at 2225 fps from a 24 inch barrel. Full length resize .30 Carbine brass.
At 100 yards the little bullet is traveling at 1,567 fps and still has 600 ft. lbs. The .30 Carbine By Chuck Hawks . Well, it is time once again to delve into the wonderful world of the M1 Carbine. A Federal 115 grain JHP round achieves a muzzle velocity of 1188 fps out of a six inch barrel and 1295 fps out of a 16 inch barrel. The adoption of smokeless powder reduced this ballistic penalty. Copyright 2018 by Randy Wakeman. The notion of a carbine is attributed to the cavalry. For the regular shooter, pistol ammo is often cheaper than rifle cartridges. At 100 yards the little bullet is traveling at 1,567 fps and still has 600 ft. lbs.